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Showing posts sorted by relevance for query Lamorna. Sort by date Show all posts

Thursday, September 8, 2016

The mining family of Vospers from GERMANY!?!? - Lamorna

From: Yvonne Morant
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 8:03 PM

Subject: RE: The mining family of Vospers from GERMANY!?!?

It seems Lamorna is a place in Cornwall, not a person. So just who held the deeds in question at the time of the published query we don't know but maybe they are in some archives somewhere. I shall consider how to find out.
Yvonne

Sunday, September 11, 2016

Vosper home for sale with pictures - Y DNA scholarship dilemma

Hi Vosper Cousins,

 

Lesley sent the information below about a Vosper property called "Trewoofe" which is  for sale (see her email below)– it is really charming, and I'd give my left arm for the furniture!  Take a gander at the slide show before the house sells and is off the market.

 

While it is down in the general area of Penzance, I note from the map below that it is next to LAMORNA, which figured in an earlier couple of posts in our correspondence:

 

 

SO perhaps it was this branch of the Vosper family that the article was referring to.

 

I do have this family on my tree (Richard Vosper m. Prudence Levelis).  ….   But we have never found any descendants from this branch of the family.  David Hillman has stated that all living Vospers are descended from DANIEL on our line, if I recall correctly.

 

Have you noticed that on the BLOG page you can do a search?  

 

Just put your search term in the little box on the upper left hand side:

 

 

It'll bring up all the information that contains that term….

 

We do have a DNA 'scholarship' available for a male with the surname VOSPER who can demonstrate a male-to-male heritage from Johannes.  Just yesterday Moira told me that she has gotten agreement from Gary Vosper to do a Y Test.  Because Moira's family line is the farthest back we've found (in terms of separation from Robert Vosper), a Y-test match would be very valuable.  It would be great if we got a match from your brother as well, which would  confirm your family's lineage.  At this point, however, we only have one 'scholarship' available.  Since Moira got back to me first and it would be the most valuable, I need to grant the scholarship to that test, if it can be done in a timely manner, and we can verify the lineage of Gary.  This 'scholarship' is being funded by Robert Vosper and me, it's not some institutional thing.   The cost of the test is $169 through FTDNA, which is where the testing must be done in order to compare it to Robert's.

 

Cousin Teri

 

From: Lesley Dawson [mailto:mail@lesleydawson.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:49 AM
To: Info Seeker
Subject: Re: DNA comparison with cousin Lesley

 

Hi Teri

Hey, I'm not getting any other work done here!

I thought you might be interested in a Vosper house for sale
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-37918755.html

My sister and I visited it many years ago and bought a book from the owner by Margaret Powell.  You can see in the house details, some quilts on the 2 single beds that she did of the history of the house - Trewoofe which contains the coat of arms of the Vospers.  Richard Vosper married the daughter of the owner of Trewoofe, Arthur Levelis and so it became a Vosper house.  We have never laid claim to be from this branch of the Vospers - does anyone have a Richard Vosper marrying a Prudence Lavalis 27 Feb 1766 in St Buryan?  I think there was a John Vosper of Trewoofe around at the same time as the John Vosper who married Grace Goddard.

My brother may do a DNA Y test if I ask him nicely!!!

Cardiff is where I was born and brought up although we went away to school in England.

Regards

Lesley

Thursday, September 8, 2016

The mining family of Vospers from GERMANY!?!? Sources

From: Yvonne Morant
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 7:59 PM
To:
Subject: RE: The mining family of Vospers from GERMANY!?!?

Hi Teri
Thanks for this information; it's very exciting. I have (temporary) access to Find My Past but can not find any relevant records pertaining to deeds or property in their list of records.

In the 'Notes and Queries" reference, the person asking the question about the Vosper name origins in Germany and the coat of arms is signed Lamorna. I skimmed through the rest of the publication but can't see where any response to his/her query has been attempted. I wonder if it is possible a response might have been published in a subsequent edition? Or was the nature of the publication such that there was not necessarily a response? I don't expect you to know the answers just thinking aloud and pondering other lines of inquiry.
However, I do find the notion of Vosper coming from Germany with connections to mining highly plausible.
Yvonne

From: Info Seeker
Sent: Monday, 25 January 2016 10:54 AM
To:
Subject: The mining family of Vospers from GERMANY!?!?

Wow, we are on a roll now!

Cousin Jon, from BERMUDA, son of Robert N Vosper, has come up with the source of what I could not remember – the mining reference in regard to the Vospers (see second URL below).

He also found a second very intriguing query in a book from 1873 (click on the first URL):


It would seem that perhaps the deeds of the properties in Liskeard, St. Bwryan or St. Neot or perhaps from some of the mining operations, may have origination information about the Vosper family!

This is VERY exciting!  I have checked in the past for Vospers in Germany, but didn't find anything.  I did find a name remarkably similar to 'Vosper' in a listing of Russian Jewish names.

GREAT FIND, Jon!

I wonder if any of our ENGLISH cousins, Bill or Graham, would have any way to access these records?  They may be in Truro, but they may be filed in the jurisdictions of the towns.  Does anyone have access to FindMyPast?  Do they have deeds?   (hint, hint!)

I've updated my Ancestry profile for Johanes with this information:  http://person.ancestry.com/tree/47009625/person/6961584721/facts

I'm very excited!  I feel like we're really getting close, now!

Teri

From: Jon Vosper
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 10:39 AM
To: Info Seeker
Subject: Re: FW: History of the Jews in England

Here are two references to mining:

One in the book "notes and queries" which claims a German connection: