Thursday, August 22, 2019

Arundel home from 1400s

Hello Vosper cousins,

This is not quite Vosper information, but the Vosper family does descend
from the Arundells.

While working on the Arundell line, I discovered Ebbingford Manor in Bude,
Cornwall then in the parish of Stratton. This home came to the Arundell
family through the marriage of Sir John Arundell I to Jane Durant in the
early 1400s. Its construction dates from the 12th century. The Arundell
family held this manor and surrounding lands along with Trerice near Newquay
until the family name died out in the late 1700s. They shared the area
around Bude with the Grenvilles with whom there were a number of marriages
over the years.

Ebbingford is in private hands and there are several holiday lets. We
stayed in the original part of the building which included the old medieval
hall and the original beams. The entry door is very old and may also be
original.

I had hoped to maybe meet some ghosts...they weren't around..., but it was
still a great thrill to be able to stay here and experience some of the
local history.

Best,
Glenda Mattes
Boston, MA

Re: Cousin Bernice's research and image links to original docs

Thanks Teri and Bernice -  Lesley and
I did a bit of tidying up of our Vospers while I was up with her in Scotland last week. We'll have to check to confirm with Berenice's findings.
Thanks again
Cousin Monica
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On 21 Aug 2019, at 21:49, Infoseeker@Gmail <infoseeker1980@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all Vosper Cousins! 

 

Cousin Bernice went to the genealogical library in Salt Lake City, and while there, did some research for us on our Vosper ancestors. 

I had images of some of the transcribed records from our Ancestors, but Bernice was able to find some images of the original records, and is sharing them with us.  I can't thank Bernice enough for doing this work – there is nothing like having a copy of the original record, and this work has validated the transcripts we have.   I have added them to my tree, and have included a link to them below, if you'd like to add them to yours.

 

Joanna Vosper's baptism – daughter of John Vosper and Grace Goddard.   This record is important because it confirms Grace's maiden name.

John Vosper baptism, 1730, Lezant – son of Joseph Vosper and Lydia [Isbell] Vosper.

Joseph Vosper baptism, 1624 – North Tamerton – son of Daniell Vosper

Joseph Vosper baptism, 1657 – North Tamerton – son of Joseph Vosper and Mary Frane

John Vosper marriage to Grace Goddard, 1756 in Lawhitton

Joseph Vosper marriage to Lyddia Isabel 1723 in Lezant

Joseph Vosper marriage to Mary Frane, 1649, North Tamerton

William Menhennitt to Joanna Vosper, 1786, Bodmin

 

From our little Cousins Chart, these are the records documenting these baptisms and marriages:

 

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Thanks, again, Bernice!

 

Cousin Teri

 

Wednesday, August 21, 2019

RE: Cousin Bernice's research and image links to original docs

Hi Teri

Thanks so much for sending these links. A big thankyou to Bernice too; it's wonderful to have copies of the actual records; it still gives me a thrill to see these ancient documents written by people of the times our ancestors lived.

Warm regards

Yvonne Morant

Perth, Western Australia

 

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From: Infoseeker@Gmail
Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2019 4:49 AM
To: Vosper Blog for Cousins
Subject: Cousin Bernice's research and image links to original docs

 

Hello all Vosper Cousins! 

 

Cousin Bernice went to the genealogical library in Salt Lake City, and while there, did some research for us on our Vosper ancestors. 

I had images of some of the transcribed records from our Ancestors, but Bernice was able to find some images of the original records, and is sharing them with us.  I can't thank Bernice enough for doing this work – there is nothing like having a copy of the original record, and this work has validated the transcripts we have.   I have added them to my tree, and have included a link to them below, if you'd like to add them to yours.

 

Joanna Vosper's baptism – daughter of John Vosper and Grace Goddard.   This record is important because it confirms Grace's maiden name.

John Vosper baptism, 1730, Lezant – son of Joseph Vosper and Lydia [Isbell] Vosper.

Joseph Vosper baptism, 1624 – North Tamerton – son of Daniell Vosper

Joseph Vosper baptism, 1657 – North Tamerton – son of Joseph Vosper and Mary Frane

John Vosper marriage to Grace Goddard, 1756 in Lawhitton

Joseph Vosper marriage to Lyddia Isabel 1723 in Lezant

Joseph Vosper marriage to Mary Frane, 1649, North Tamerton

William Menhennitt to Joanna Vosper, 1786, Bodmin

 

From our little Cousins Chart, these are the records documenting these baptisms and marriages:

 

 

Thanks, again, Bernice!

 

Cousin Teri

 

 

Re: Cousin Bernice's research and image links to original docs

This is great, thank you! 

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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 6:49 AM Infoseeker@Gmail <infoseeker1980@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all Vosper Cousins! 

 

Cousin Bernice went to the genealogical library in Salt Lake City, and while there, did some research for us on our Vosper ancestors. 

I had images of some of the transcribed records from our Ancestors, but Bernice was able to find some images of the original records, and is sharing them with us.  I can't thank Bernice enough for doing this work – there is nothing like having a copy of the original record, and this work has validated the transcripts we have.   I have added them to my tree, and have included a link to them below, if you'd like to add them to yours.

 

Joanna Vosper's baptism – daughter of John Vosper and Grace Goddard.   This record is important because it confirms Grace's maiden name.

John Vosper baptism, 1730, Lezant – son of Joseph Vosper and Lydia [Isbell] Vosper.

Joseph Vosper baptism, 1624 – North Tamerton – son of Daniell Vosper

Joseph Vosper baptism, 1657 – North Tamerton – son of Joseph Vosper and Mary Frane

John Vosper marriage to Grace Goddard, 1756 in Lawhitton

Joseph Vosper marriage to Lyddia Isabel 1723 in Lezant

Joseph Vosper marriage to Mary Frane, 1649, North Tamerton

William Menhennitt to Joanna Vosper, 1786, Bodmin

 

From our little Cousins Chart, these are the records documenting these baptisms and marriages:

 

 

Thanks, again, Bernice!

 

Cousin Teri

 


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Re: Cousin Bernice's research and image links to original docs

This is great, thank you!

On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 21:49, Infoseeker@Gmail <infoseeker1980@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello all Vosper Cousins! 

 

Cousin Bernice went to the genealogical library in Salt Lake City, and while there, did some research for us on our Vosper ancestors. 

I had images of some of the transcribed records from our Ancestors, but Bernice was able to find some images of the original records, and is sharing them with us.  I can't thank Bernice enough for doing this work – there is nothing like having a copy of the original record, and this work has validated the transcripts we have.   I have added them to my tree, and have included a link to them below, if you'd like to add them to yours.

 

Joanna Vosper's baptism – daughter of John Vosper and Grace Goddard.   This record is important because it confirms Grace's maiden name.

John Vosper baptism, 1730, Lezant – son of Joseph Vosper and Lydia [Isbell] Vosper.

Joseph Vosper baptism, 1624 – North Tamerton – son of Daniell Vosper

Joseph Vosper baptism, 1657 – North Tamerton – son of Joseph Vosper and Mary Frane

John Vosper marriage to Grace Goddard, 1756 in Lawhitton

Joseph Vosper marriage to Lyddia Isabel 1723 in Lezant

Joseph Vosper marriage to Mary Frane, 1649, North Tamerton

William Menhennitt to Joanna Vosper, 1786, Bodmin

 

From our little Cousins Chart, these are the records documenting these baptisms and marriages:

 

 

Thanks, again, Bernice!

 

Cousin Teri

 

--
Sheila Stevens
Exeter

Cousin Bernice's research and image links to original docs

Hello all Vosper Cousins! 

 

Cousin Bernice went to the genealogical library in Salt Lake City, and while there, did some research for us on our Vosper ancestors. 

I had images of some of the transcribed records from our Ancestors, but Bernice was able to find some images of the original records, and is sharing them with us.  I can't thank Bernice enough for doing this work – there is nothing like having a copy of the original record, and this work has validated the transcripts we have.   I have added them to my tree, and have included a link to them below, if you'd like to add them to yours.

 

Joanna Vosper's baptism – daughter of John Vosper and Grace Goddard.   This record is important because it confirms Grace's maiden name.

John Vosper baptism, 1730, Lezant – son of Joseph Vosper and Lydia [Isbell] Vosper.

Joseph Vosper baptism, 1624 – North Tamerton – son of Daniell Vosper

Joseph Vosper baptism, 1657 – North Tamerton – son of Joseph Vosper and Mary Frane

John Vosper marriage to Grace Goddard, 1756 in Lawhitton

Joseph Vosper marriage to Lyddia Isabel 1723 in Lezant

Joseph Vosper marriage to Mary Frane, 1649, North Tamerton

William Menhennitt to Joanna Vosper, 1786, Bodmin

 

From our little Cousins Chart, these are the records documenting these baptisms and marriages:

 

 

Thanks, again, Bernice!

 

Cousin Teri

 

Cousin Bernice did some research for us!

I'm attaching some correspondence between Cousin Bernice and I about her visit to the genealogical library in Salt Lake City.  I asked her to do a bit of research for us, if she had time, and to describe what her experience was.  You should read from the bottom up, to read in chronological order.

 

I am posting her research to my public tree, and putting together a document with links to the images I upload to make it easy for you to find and add to your trees.

 

Thanks Cousin Bernice!

 

Cousin Teri

 

From: badarby
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2019 11:32 PM

 

Dear Teri

 

I'm home safe and sound from my trip and still trying to sort through everything and get back into the swing of 'normal' life.

The trip was lovely, very hot weather, but after the cold in Sydney it was very welcome.

 

The library has had a number of technology updates since I was there in 2016.

Ground floor which was previously used for US research (loads of microfilm readers etc) is now a walk in centre for anyone who wants to just look for an ancestor or get started.

There a lots of volunteers to help out and even this area is open on Sunday from 1pm – 5pm.  Although the shops are shut tight on Sunday.  Loads of tourists just walking around with nothing to do!

The film scanning is powering ahead and every terminal now has a USB connection, so when you find a scanned doc you can just download to your USB key.  Of course if you don't have one, they sell them.

All very impressive.

 

I have a few Vosper docs for you, I'll send them in a couple of emails, baptisms then marriages.

I also found a book on 'History of Liskeard' and there were a couple of references to Vosper.

That scanning is rather large and I had do so this in a number of sections, so will have to have a think about how I'll send this through later.

 

So, attached are the Baptism first and I'll send the marriage next.

Kind regards

Bernice

 

 

From: Infoseeker
Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2019 1:00 AM
To: badarby

 

Oh!  I didn't know SLC had much on Cornwall!  While you're looking up 'Vosper', try 'Trevosper' as well – They were the earliest Vospers, I think!

 

It would be great if you did a little write up about your research there for me to send out to all the Vosper Cousins.

 

Do they have photos of the original birth records from Cornwall?  Those would be fascinating to see!   I've gotten all my dob and dod and marriage information from transcripts online – the originals (or photos of them) would be great to see!   These, for instance:

 

 

What a good friend you are!

 

Cousin Teri

 

From: badarby
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 12:36 AM
To: 'Infoseeker

Dear Teri

 

Thank you for including me in your 'round robin' emails.  Although I don't add much to the content.

Just wanted to let you know that I am going to take a couple of weeks holiday and go to Salt Lake City to do some more research.

I plan to do some more work on my Cornwall families – clarify more on the Mehennett group connections etc.

 

I'll let you know if I find anything startling.  You never know what is on the shelves in Basement 2 of the library.

 

Kind regards

Bernice

FW: Vospers

Hello Vosper Cousins!  I have a lot to share with you – I will start with this correspondence from Marian, who had originally left a comment on our Blog, http://vospercousins.blogspot.com/   .  I asked her some questions, and she responded with the correspondence below, in addition to inviting me to her trees.

 

I have not had time to do all the research to confirm exactly how our trees coincide, but I think it's interesting that this is the fourth family group of Vospers from different locations.  We have "our" group of Vospers from Cornwall/Devon, there is a Vosper link in Ireland, the Vospers of the Vosper Boat Company in Portsmouth, and Marian's family from Tewkesbury:

 

 

It would be interesting to know how they all link together, wouldn't it?

 

Cousin Teri

 

From: Marian
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 3:38 AM

Subject: Vospers

 

Hi

Long story.  Since I posted on your page . I have done much research.  All the information on my old Vospers born Tewkesbury has been moved to my Tree Marian Collins.

 

 

All the Vospers born Tewkesbury listed on the IGI  Excepting three are related to me. Many think John & Samuel  first Vospers to Live in Tewkesbury are the sons of John Vosper and Elizabeth Thorn . You noted that the dates for Samuel did not  jive.   I have now confirmed that John Samuel Harriett and Thomas were the children of a Richard Vosper and Araminta Tanguy See my Somerset Vosper tree . 

 

There was two Araminta' s  born Cornwall a few months apart they were cousins I have sorted them out.  I also discovered there were two John Vospers born 1761 I made trees for both of them many have them and their kids mixed up .

 

I also have an Exeter born Vosper tree.

 

Richard Vosper went to sea some records are at the British Archives the Dr report gave his age which gave me his aprox age and another stated he had his Pay sent home to his wife Araminta. I seem to remember that one of his ship mated was a Ward, Araminta was on the census in 1841 living back in Exeter with a Thomas Ward think I did his tree think he was the son of the ward shipmate. 

 

Regarding Thomas Vosper he went up north all the Vospers in the north of England are related to him . (wrighting this from my memory LOL) Its all on my tree. 

 

Richard and Araminta married in Taunton in Somerset and John was born there I have all the sources.  Interesting to see the use of names in the kids of John and Samuel of Tewkesbury .

 

There was a few other Vospers recorded as living in Somerset  A Joesph and an Ezekiel. 

 

Seam to remember somewhere on the net   an Ezekiel Vosper was something to do with mining coal . My theory as the Tin mines ran out the coal mines of Somerset started .so the Vospers moved. 

 

Can't prove it but I tend to think that the John Vosper and Elizabeth Thorn who also baptised a John Vosper in the Meeting house in Exeter  was relation of  Richard, may be brothers ?  Many years ago on the net I came across a link to a fellow in Tewkesbury who had written a book about his Vosper ancestor who went to sea , the book was in a navel museum catalog in the UK , darn computer crashed and I lost the link and haven't been able to find it. 

 

Have to run its late.

 

Sorting out my DNA matches , have some matches to Thomas Vospers descendants.  Some matches to who I think are the ancestors of Araminta s dads family . And lots of matches to Tewkesbury old family's.   

 

Now my Dad was adopted but I have his adoption records . His Mother was also kind of adopted by her baptism & marriage of her mum, Her step dad was an Alfred Collins I did his tree and he was acutely related to  his stepdaughter via the Vospers its truly complicated. 

 

The was another Vosper record in Tewkesbury I will have to look it up  its strange it was a baptism of a boy who turned out to be a girl and I have dna matches to her descendants , I have not been able to figure out who she is am thinking she might be a sister or another kid of Richard. Other think you might be interested in is an account of a William Vosper who lived here Chronology of The Royal Hospital School RHS

 

 

Hope you find all my trees

Best wishes

Marian

 

F Charles Collins

GM Annie Robinson Heath aka Annie Collins Aka Nancy Collins

GGM Elizabeth Heath was born on September 18, 1882, in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England, her father, Samuel, was 22, and her mother, Elizabeth, was 22. She had one daughter from one relationship. She then married Alfred Collins and they had seven children together. She died in December 1965 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England, at the age of 83

GGGM. Elizabeth Vosper was born in December 1859 in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England, her father, John, was 30, and her mother, Elizabeth, was 24. She had one son from one relationship. She then married Samuel Heath and they had nine children together. She died in September 1933 in her hometown at the age of 73.

[GGGGF.  John Vosper}